Thoughts and insights about prayer

This blog is for me to publish my thoughts, expereinces and insights regarding prayer from a Christian perspective and from the Scriptures

Location: Tahmoor, Wollondilly Shire / NSW, Australia

I'm 41 years old, married to Rose and have 5 boys, 3 whom are step sons. I love God, love people as well as all creation. This is where I post my thoughts,aspirations, activities and any other quirky thing that catches my interest.

Sunday, January 22, 2006

The work of the Holy Spirit

I get tired at times when Christians from the non charistmatic persuasion continually use the point that as Christians we cannot use experience to tell us what the bible says and to explain the scriptures, and yet they continually do the same they tell us not to do to prove their own explanation of scripture.

Come on you guys, if you are going to make a hermenutical rule that cannot be used, and then condem others forusing it, make sure you don't use it yourself.

The following is part of a excerpt of a discussion elsewhere I am having.

It's funny how you say we first must not depend on subjective expereince
to determine biblical truth, and then you use subjective expereince to
determine truth and not what the Scriptures say? hhhmmmmmnnnn It always
amazes me how Scripture onlyists, fall themselves in this regard. :-)

you said,

If sickness is a part of the curse that has been removed through the
atonement, why are the curses of pain in childbearing, creation, and
death not also removed? If healing of disease is in the atonement

I continued to reply to your saying there is only one work of the Holy Spirit,

Also, if Pentecost was fulfilled by the 3 fold cord of the Holy Spirit
being poured out, Jews, Samaritans and Gentiles, why is there a record
of the Holy Spirit being poured out on Jews a 2nd time round, Acts 19:2,
and in his Epistles Paul speaks about them recieving the fullness of the
spirit in the same way as all the others did.

Seems that God has not stopped pouring out his Holy Spirit like he did
in NT times, and that it is recorded twice in Acts of believers having
not yet recieved the baptism of the Holy Spirit , Acts 19:2, and Acts 8:16.

There is clearly two works in Scripture of the Holy Spirit, one is the
external work in convicting believers, the other is in empowering
believers with dunamias power.

1.) The convicting / convincing work of the Holy Spirit,
a) Sin of the person
b) Righteousness of Christ
c) Judgement of the devil

John 16:8 - 13

And the other is in empowering the believer with gifts and graces of the
Holy Spirit such is as mentioned in 1 Corinthians 12:1, which is a
distinct seperate issue to that of coming to faith.

And we also see this distinction when Jesus breaths the Holy Spirit onto
the disciples, John 20:22 A/nd with that he breathed on them and said,
"Receive the Holy Spirit.
/And then when Jesus said to his Disciples you will recieve power when
the Holy Ghost comes upon you. /Luk 24:49 I am going to send you what my
Father has promised; but stay in the city until you have been clothed
with power from on high." /and also Acts 1:5

And so just as we see the Disciples being given the Holy Spirit before
Jesus ascended to heaven and recieving the power of the Holy Spirit as
seen in Acts, likewise there is a distinct difference still in operation
today in the work of the Holy Spirit.

Blessings craig bennett


Blogger Jeremy Felden said...


I noticed that you have been posting on my blog. Thanks for responding!

I'm definitely not a charismatic, but I have some questions that are valid even given your position.

1. What manifestations of the Holy Spirit should we expect in all belivers? What does it mean if some manifestations are missing?

2. How can we be sure that we have received a direct revelation from God?

3. Is such a revelation equivalent with Scripture?

I was wondering where you were from: "pkts"=Maybe English?, "cents"=nope, not English, "chips" instead of "crisps"=definitely not English. I see now that you're of the antipodean persuasion. It all makes sense now.

11:02 am  

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